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welcome

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thank you all for

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being here in our panel four on the

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space economy i definitely feel like uh

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it is a hard act to follow

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when the president has really laid out

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not only i think for our panel but all

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four of the important panels

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the underpinnings of why our new plan

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the right way to go forward for the

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future of nasa but we are going to make

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an attempt here to delve even deeper

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into the really meaningful aspects of

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why we believe the investment in space

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in r d and in the very

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programs that the president just

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outlined are going to be the best to

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help us develop a vibrant space economy

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of the future i have a wonderful panel

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uh here today and we're going to

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each i'm going to ask them each to just

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give an overview of a few minutes so

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that we can start with the interaction

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of the panel we do have roving

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microphones so we'll ask you to use

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those and and just to begin i i would

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like to again sort of outline that

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the president's plan

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has this explicit goal of the creation

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and continuous improvement of american

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capabilities in space which will open up

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new opportunities for the economy and i

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know this is a shift that people have

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been talking about certainly in the uh

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25 years of space policy development

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that i've been participating and so it's

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exciting today to be able to

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talk more about those details and the

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research that has gone into this and a

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very meaningful shift that we believe

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will help sustain a vibrant space future

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for us all

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the second component is really that in

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the way we procure uh this commercially

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our space transportation services are to

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provide those incentives for improvement

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in commercial capabilities and

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reduce costs and that will allow us to

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develop the new private sector

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activities

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that employ these new capabilities so

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it's a combined effort of the government

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taking what the government does best and

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investing in the r d going further

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faster beyond low earth orbit and then

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utilizing the private sector

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in its unique benefits that it brings

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providing that innovation

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to take over those things that the

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government has historically done

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so we have to with this plan

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from the previous architecture and i

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know that's what's been difficult but we

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a more open architecture that will

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advance our capabilities and

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president has laid out in addition

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focusing on our r d efforts on

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technologies is historically one of the

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real elements of nasa that has provided

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for the economic growth that the nation

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has seen over time and it is time for

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nasa to get back to that right now the

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international market alone for

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commercial space products and services

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is 175 billion dollars and nasa's

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investment in r d needs to help us

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keep more of that at home

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opening comments with a look

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historically that in fact this is not

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something new that a shift to having

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more private sector involvement is

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robert goddard's first flights that were

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his experiments in liquid field rocket

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rocketry were funded by the guggenheim

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family and in fact

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telescopes space observatories have been

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exploration in space this is really a

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continuation historically of what uh we

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have done in this country and uh we

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believe it is time to harness that

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again that that energy and excitement

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invite our our panelists to begin we

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will start with greg juniman who is has

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federation of professional and technical

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engineers ifpte he is currently the

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president he's held many positions over

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he was a senior cost estimator and

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project planner so greg is going to talk

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their views of the president's program

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and the investment in r d and its value

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really reminded of a time i'm a union

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official and i had to speak before the

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wisconsin state afl-cio right before

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the 2006 governor's election and i

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looked at the program and it said

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keynote speaker gregory juniman

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other featured speaker henry aaron and i

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thought who's going to want to listen to

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what i've got to say after hearing henry

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so i'd like to talk about our views my

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union's views we're the largest union at

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nasa representing about ten thousand

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scientists engineers and technicians at

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nasa at sites across the nation about uh

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our views on the president's program not

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necessarily from a scientific viewpoint

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or an economic viewpoint

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while i represent about 10 000

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engineers and and scientists at nasa i

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also represent about hundred thousand

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people who aren't at nasa so they look

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at this program and say why does this

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make sense uh and in the labor movement

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professional technical engineers like

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many other unions in this country are

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interested in jobs we are still even

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though the numbers look good the last

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we're still facing very close to 10

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percent unemployment in this country and

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we consider it a major jobs crisis so we

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look and say okay where are the jobs

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going to be and what i tell my members

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is that and i really strongly believe

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this nasa is the place where we can make

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an investment into our country into the

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scientific mind it's the only place that

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i think that we can do that as taxpayers

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that we can invest in our own society

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it's where we i mean again it's where

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the future is going to be it's in the

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creation of jobs we all understand

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way too many cases the private sector

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creates jobs and shifts them overseas

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administration particularly with nasa in

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the creation of jobs is uh you know

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through this investment is this is where

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into uh you know the creation and

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maintenance of meaningful and lasting

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sustaining jobs through new ideas

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through new strategies and through new

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innovation and technologies

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uh and if you know it seems and what

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intend to stay a world power we can't

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simply do so by the strength of will or

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through patriotic zeal but it has to be

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through responsible investment in our

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own communities in our youth and in our

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own scientific minds and i think the way

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that i've seen that we can do that

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specifically about uh space and earth

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science exploration but about the

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scientific and technological byproducts

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space exploration and earth science that

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those things alone that are done at nasa

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are remarkable in themselves but looking

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byproducts i mean we really have to

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stand up and see how much how much gains

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communities through jobs that are

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created through nasa's technological

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byproducts the president mentioned

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almost as a lark tang you know but

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michael phelps's swimming suit that

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nasa's work that has led to you know

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diagnostic procedures that that bring us

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jobs that are important and it seems to

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health care reform in this country now

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the important uh gains and breakthroughs

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of breast breast cancer and in cancer

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country you know and when i talked to

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scientists they say that well yeah a lot

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thermography and it kind of reminds me

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representative when i was a secretary

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treasurer before i became the president

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i met with one of my members who was

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complaining about management's

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escalating interference into his

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occupational environment through

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into his work life and i said oh so

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and he said oh that's perfect and i said

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what's really being done that that's

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there in that general area yet this is

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really important work you know that

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there's work there's byproducts at nasa

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you know that that come out that um you

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know the the micro batteries that are

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used to power uh

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robots and satellites are used to power

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pacemakers

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you know and nobody knows about this

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stuff and they really should people

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should know about this they should talk

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about this they should understand this

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is why you know it's important that we

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have nasa beyond space exploration and

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earth science and these are where jobs

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can be created you know that are going

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to help us again beyond nasa and it's

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sort of like we need to answer the

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question why

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you know why why is this necessary for

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this work to get done beyond the

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scientific community to get out of the

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inside the baseball stuff right um

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you know the um

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following my notes here okay um

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so i and i i do need to sort of mention

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this because charlie bolden said let's

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sort of like dare to disagree with one

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another once in a while i think very

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much of this

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stuff needs to be discussed on the nasa

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television channel i don't know who's in

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charge of that but it's

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somebody said it's like watching paint

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dry i think it's more like watching dry

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paint because watching paint dry would

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actually be something happening i think

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you might be on it right now so if i see

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the logo

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if okay well

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maybe i blend into how boring the things

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so yeah in any event the other and and i

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do got to say i mean and i read recently

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and this is sort of all i'll fault the

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press a bit for this um i recently

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something about that there was that

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there's work being done very much of

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what nasa's work is you know that's done

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the research work has to be done and you

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know this

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at zero gravity so work was done on the

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space station i read this some place

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recently that you know was the

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investigation of the hiv

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genome so i talked to a reporter about

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this from a nationally known publication

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who i won't advertise for free

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and said you know why aren't you talking

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about this this could lead to the cure

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for hiv aids

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and he said everybody knows about that

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is that nobody knows about this stuff

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nobody i mean we need to be talking

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about this people need to be hearing

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about this and maybe a lot of that is

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our fault you know but again this is the

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sort of thing i think that leads to jobs

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that leads to you know real meaningful

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uh um

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need for investment in nasa and of

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course beyond all of that i mean and i

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look at my own union i represent uh

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engineers and technicians outside of the

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medical field my own unite represent

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engineers technicians and scientists at

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boeing and at general electric and the

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work that's done there by nasa you know

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into the improvement of jet engines and

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wing design you know the the fuel

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efficiency gains that have been made by

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nasa are just incredible that have been

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passed on to the private sector

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you know and there so we now have

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quieter more fuel efficient uh jet

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engines you know which means less noise

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pollution less air pollution so that as

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some nasa scientists are studying the

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effects that we're having on our own

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globe you know nasa is also taking

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positive action toward improving those

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things

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i've got friends who were in the

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firefighters

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when i look and see the sort of work

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that nasa is doing on flame retardant

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materials that firefighters can use

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and i heard just recently that we've

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that nasa has developed these like face

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masks that if the firefighters on

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september 11th on the recovery mission

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had had these they wouldn't have gotten

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the insides of their throats irreparably

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burned

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you know this is incredible stuff that

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nasa is doing beyond space exploration

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beyond earth science that needs to be

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talked about within the general public

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and if it's not being talked about shame

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on us for not doing it because i think

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we need to bring that out there so this

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makes sense so nasa makes sense to the

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people on main street in lincoln

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nebraska who are helping to pay for

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these things and certainly when we look

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at the remarkable work that's done by

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nasa in space exploration in our science

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that i'm sure others are going to be

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talking about you know it's it's just

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incredible work and it really needs our

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investment our continuous investment as

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a society because when i look at when i

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consider

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um

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other civilizations that have faltered

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throughout history and i think it's

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because in a lot of ways it's because

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they stopped

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gazing outward and wonder and began just

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staring inward you know in self-interest

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and then they began to falter over time

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and we can't let that happen in this

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country that's why we need to make

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investments into our space program in

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earth science because you know through

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those things and the scientists would

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tell me this and maybe a lot of people

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know this that after these projects are

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done and they write these technical

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reports and say here's practical uses

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for the things that we've learned you

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know in in in

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launching this rocket or launching the

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space shuttle and these things can be

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you know can be used in our general

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society in general communities in the

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creation of jobs in the creation of

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industries in meaningful sustainable

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jobs that'll stay with this country you

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know then that seems to me to be that's

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a very smart investment that we can make

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you know and and i sort of look at it

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and think even the most conservative tea

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party people if they figured out only

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less than a penny of our each tax dollar

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goes into nasa i mean it's it's an

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incredible investment i i also i read

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recently that uh you know um you know we

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look at our partners where a lot of my

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members jobs go right and uh in the net

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in terms of the national budget

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china spends about 11 percent of its

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budget on education

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independence about 9.98 of its budget on

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education japan is about 9.3 percent of

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its budget on education united states we

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spend about two percent

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of our budget on education

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china will graduate and we've got if you

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think the unemployment numbers are bad

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digress here for just a minute the

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unemployment numbers in this country

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don't really tell the story as we all

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know that's just the measure of the

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people who are collecting unemployment

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insurance but we're about to graduate a

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half a million

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students

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both out of college and out of high

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school maybe it's more than that i think

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it's actually millions that are going to

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come onto the streets that won't be part

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of the unemployment numbers in this

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country you know but we're going to

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graduate however many engineers we're

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going to get out china will graduate

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about three and a half times more

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engineers than us so will india japan

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with half of our population graduates

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twice as many engineers as we do and we

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lose 40 percent of our graduates to

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other countries because where they're

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going to get jobs especially if we don't

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invest in ourselves invest in our invest

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in our own young minds

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it seems to me in so many ways

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that nasa provides sort of the the

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golden eggs of our society right and the

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goose is easily fed you know that if we

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look to invest in our own futures nasa

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is the way to do it and i would just

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close by you know please remember the

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great line by albert einstein when he

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talked about the high cost of an

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education that i would just think if we

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consider the cost of investing in our

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own futures

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consider the alternative and that's why

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my union wholeheartedly endorses the

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thank you greg well i think if we were

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when we are on nasa watch it won't be

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like watching paint dry that uh and

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passion union speech we should have had

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a platform for you like you were in a

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workforce i've met with you a number of

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times

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this is your element and so thank you so

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much for being here and articulating

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that view i should note that greg does

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have a flight to catch so he will not be

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here uh much longer so if if

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while uh dale is speaking he leaves i

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really believe it is not because he's

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disagreeing with with dale

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so so thanks thanks again yes uh so our

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next speaker is dale ketchum he is a

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representative on a panel as a lifelong

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resident of florida's space coast as a

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graduate of the university of florida

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been involved in the space program

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directly or indirectly for his entire

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career he was at rockwell international

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working on the shuttle for a decade

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worked for a district director for

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congressman jim bacchus on the house

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space subcommittee and the former

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director of space programs for

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enterprise florida the state's economic

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development agency at the time and he is

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currently the director of spaceport's

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research and technology institute at the

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university of central florida

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dale we're looking forward to your

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comments on our future plans in space

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thank you lori uh i guess i want to take

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advantage of the fact that uh since this

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event is occurring in florida

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um

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uh focus on for the most part on the

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impacts to florida and you know it's

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happening here this is our home court

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advantage we're going to exploit it but

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i think the applications are are

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generally across the nation

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um

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what the president's doing for my

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perspective is extremely important

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and and i i say that in the in a very

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personal context

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when my father started putting me

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through

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uh college at the university of florida

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we've been here all our lives so my dad

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moved here in 1955 and i was not very

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big in 1955 i learned to walk on cocoa

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beach

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with the original astronauts and

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the

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when when he was putting me through

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college

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was 1972 when

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the

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apollo program was being canceled and

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and the devastation in this community

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was immense i think we went from 36 000

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to about 14 000 in 18 months working

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here at ksc and that was back when the

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economy was about half what it is today

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and um

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you know that occurred because all we

558
00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:04,799
did was launch

559
00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:06,720
launch here that's what ksc does we

560
00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:08,080
launch

561
00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:10,240
then now i'm going to be

562
00:21:15,029 --> 00:21:12,559
putting my kids through college

563
00:21:16,789 --> 00:21:15,039
through the painful transition out of

564
00:21:18,310 --> 00:21:16,799
the shuttle work program

565
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:18,320
and that's going to be

566
00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:20,080
extremely difficult it won't be nearly

567
00:21:22,870 --> 00:21:21,520
as bad as the apollo but it's still

568
00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:22,880
going to hurt like heck to this

569
00:21:25,669 --> 00:21:24,080
community

570
00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:25,679
and i guess what inspires me the most

571
00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:27,280
about what the president's trying to do

572
00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:28,559
is

573
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:32,240
uh the proposals he's put forward

574
00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:33,760
allow florida

575
00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:36,000
to to have a big piece of the in

576
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:37,679
increased investment in research and

577
00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:39,600
development and technology development

578
00:21:43,590 --> 00:21:41,520
and to allow us to broaden our business

579
00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:43,600
base here at ksc so we're no longer

580
00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:46,640
focused strictly on operations we we now

581
00:21:51,669 --> 00:21:49,440
will have an institutionalized pieces

582
00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:51,679
of of research budgets of program

583
00:21:56,630 --> 00:21:54,080
development a program management and

584
00:21:58,950 --> 00:21:56,640
this will make it so that fortunately my

585
00:22:00,870 --> 00:21:58,960
kids won't have to go through the same

586
00:22:03,270 --> 00:22:00,880
sort of economic whipsaw that occurs

587
00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:03,280
when your programs cycle down for the

588
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:04,799
same reason that if you you don't if

589
00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:06,480
your retirement fund is all invested in

590
00:22:09,430 --> 00:22:08,320
one stock when that stock goes down you

591
00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:09,440
get hammered

592
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:11,440
it'll allow florida to be a much more

593
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:12,400
diverse

594
00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:15,280
and robust and and hopefully not even uh

595
00:22:21,909 --> 00:22:18,880
solely focused on on on nasa as as a

596
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:21,919
manned space launch activity for that

597
00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:23,520
particular agency

598
00:22:27,029 --> 00:22:25,280
so it's inspiring to me that we're going

599
00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:27,039
to finally get what a lot of us in the

600
00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:28,480
community have been seeking for a long

601
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:30,080
time and that's a diversified business

602
00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:30,960
case

603
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:34,640
for nasa here in the state of florida

604
00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:35,440
it

605
00:22:39,830 --> 00:22:37,360
on a broader context i think what the

606
00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:39,840
president is proposing when as we heard

607
00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:41,919
him today and as we listened to him

608
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:43,360
uh some of us had the opportunity to

609
00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:45,840
meet with him uh for 15-20 minutes

610
00:22:49,750 --> 00:22:48,000
before he spoke and it was a real

611
00:22:51,669 --> 00:22:49,760
opportunity the president to who's a

612
00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:51,679
very approachable gentleman

613
00:22:56,230 --> 00:22:54,000
i mean he comes in with his retinue of

614
00:22:57,590 --> 00:22:56,240
secret service it's rather intimidating

615
00:22:59,590 --> 00:22:57,600
but he promptly walks over and starts

616
00:23:03,110 --> 00:22:59,600
talking to you in a very offhand manner

617
00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:03,120
and was able to effectively convey

618
00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:04,000
that

619
00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:07,520
statements

620
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:09,520
about his investment and commitment to

621
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:11,760
human space flight is genuine it's

622
00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:13,440
personal and and he was able to

623
00:23:18,390 --> 00:23:16,159
articulate not an in-depth understanding

624
00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:18,400
of physical principles of you know

625
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:20,880
orbital mechanics that's not his field

626
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:23,039
but a genuine understanding of the

627
00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:24,960
nature of the challenges that confront

628
00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:27,120
this industry the nature of the church

629
00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:29,039
that we're going to face trying to get

630
00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:31,039
out beyond low earth orbit and that his

631
00:23:34,950 --> 00:23:32,720
commitment was personal

632
00:23:37,029 --> 00:23:34,960
that was encouraging to me i think what

633
00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:37,039
he's talking about wanting to do which

634
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:39,360
is is to

635
00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:42,000
to bring the commercial sector

636
00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:44,000
into low earth orbit that

637
00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:46,559
to me resonates very well because

638
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:48,640
i've been here all my life uh you know

639
00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:51,840
i've seen uh uh you know

640
00:23:55,430 --> 00:23:53,520
all of the different vehicles and and i

641
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:55,440
understand that the

642
00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:57,520
commercial sector

643
00:24:00,950 --> 00:23:59,360
is trying to develop technology that is

644
00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:00,960
essentially 50 years old we've been

645
00:24:04,149 --> 00:24:02,880
putting humans in space for 50 years the

646
00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:04,159
russians have been doing it for longer

647
00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:05,279
than that

648
00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:06,799
if not now then when are we going to

649
00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:08,240
turn it over to the commercial sector

650
00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:09,760
you've got an opportunity you have a

651
00:24:14,789 --> 00:24:12,080
turning point the shuttle is retiring in

652
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:14,799
my mind it makes sense to do that now

653
00:24:16,630 --> 00:24:15,840
um

654
00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:16,640
the

655
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:19,200
for

656
00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:20,640
a lot of people here is a little

657
00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:23,120
difficult to understand because not

658
00:24:26,710 --> 00:24:24,960
difficult to understand it's difficult

659
00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:26,720
it's a challenge to them because a

660
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:28,799
robust commercial

661
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:31,120
launch industry is not going to be a

662
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:33,360
labor-intensive launch industry it's

663
00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:35,840
going to be efficient lean and what

664
00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:37,279
we're where we will make up the

665
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:39,600
difference is in the market activity

666
00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:41,360
that will occur with ever increasing

667
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:43,360
launches here if we are launching humans

668
00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:45,360
into space for nasa

669
00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:47,200
on a commercial vehicle if we're having

670
00:24:51,029 --> 00:24:49,600
a robust air force activity i know

671
00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:51,039
they'd like to have more launches and

672
00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:53,279
get their launch rate their launch costs

673
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:56,080
down as well as the commercial sector

674
00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:58,480
the more you get that activity

675
00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:59,440
the more

676
00:25:03,350 --> 00:25:01,360
uh the you will lower

677
00:25:04,950 --> 00:25:03,360
as in any economic model the more you do

678
00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:04,960
something the lower is your cost going

679
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:07,200
to be to do it the more we lower the

680
00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:09,440
cost of payloads into space

681
00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:10,799
the more people are going to want to put

682
00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:13,520
their payloads in space and it that then

683
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:15,520
builds as if we start becoming the

684
00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:17,360
launch cluster that we want to be here

685
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:18,640
in florida

686
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:20,480
then that will attract additional second

687
00:25:23,909 --> 00:25:22,240
and third tier suppliers the vendors

688
00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:23,919
they'll all want to come here we created

689
00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:26,320
a standard economic cluster

690
00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:28,640
um that's very encouraging to us a lot

691
00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:35,990
i think it was i think it's safe to say

692
00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:37,279
more than 90 percent of all the

693
00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:39,039
commercial payloads in the count in the

694
00:25:43,029 --> 00:25:40,880
world for at least a free world were

695
00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:43,039
launched from florida now we're less

696
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:45,120
than 10 i believe

697
00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:46,320
um

698
00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:47,840
it's you know we've been fighting that

699
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:49,760
burden for a long time it's easy to

700
00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:51,200
point at the air force and say it's all

701
00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:52,720
your guys fault with the range problems

702
00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:53,679
that's that's not a fair

703
00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:55,679
characterization it's part of it

704
00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:57,840
but you know we managed to create an

705
00:26:02,789 --> 00:26:00,080
economic system that

706
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:02,799
that wasn't good for us but created

707
00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:05,120
uh you know french guiana and the kuru

708
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:07,279
launch station and and created an

709
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:08,880
environment that was great for everybody

710
00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:11,279
but us and what we have now is a real

711
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:12,799
opportunity i think the president's

712
00:26:16,549 --> 00:26:14,240
given us the opportunity and the

713
00:26:18,390 --> 00:26:16,559
resources and the initiative to go

714
00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:18,400
forward and start to recapture a large

715
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:20,240
share of that commercial marketplace

716
00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:22,240
because they do want to launch here it's

717
00:26:26,230 --> 00:26:24,720
a lot more

718
00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:26,240
commercial providers are going to want

719
00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:28,320
to provide come to florida because it's

720
00:26:32,950 --> 00:26:30,880
much easier to spend a week or two with

721
00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:32,960
your payload on the beaches of cocoa

722
00:26:35,830 --> 00:26:34,640
beach than it is in the jungles of

723
00:26:37,590 --> 00:26:35,840
guyana

724
00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:37,600
it's just the business model will work

725
00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:39,840
for us if we can get over these critical

726
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:41,600
compo and technical challenges but i

727
00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:42,960
think the president has given us the

728
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:44,000
initiative

729
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:46,720
the resources uh and and the direction

730
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:48,000
to go do that so that that's

731
00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:50,480
particularly exciting to me i use the

732
00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:52,640
analogy of

733
00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:55,440
what we were resembles a mid 20th

734
00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:56,960
century detroit

735
00:27:02,789 --> 00:26:58,240
it was

736
00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:02,799
was very labor intensive and what the

737
00:27:07,029 --> 00:27:05,039
president is is hoping to allow us to do

738
00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:07,039
is transition into a more robust

739
00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:08,960
economic marketplace

740
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:12,080
that resembles silicon valley now under

741
00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:14,080
understand this it's a commercial

742
00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:15,520
marketplace so we're going to have

743
00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:17,200
winners we're going to have losers we're

744
00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:18,720
going to have litigation we're going to

745
00:27:22,870 --> 00:27:20,880
have layoffs all the good stuff that

746
00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:22,880
comes with a robust capitalist

747
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:25,520
environment but that is exactly the sort

748
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:28,320
of pla environment that america does

749
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:30,960
best in it's exactly sort of environment

750
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:33,440
that we will best compete with the

751
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:35,279
chinese and the indians and the russians

752
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:37,600
and everybody else uh who's trying to

753
00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:40,320
get into this the space marketplace that

754
00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:43,120
that to me is who i want competing uh in

755
00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:44,399
getting into low earth orbit and

756
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:46,480
capturing the commercial market place in

757
00:27:51,669 --> 00:27:50,159
the future um for ksc i think in again

758
00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:51,679
in particular and my guess is it's going

759
00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:54,320
to apply to centers across the board um

760
00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:57,520
ksc as a just a launch operator has been

761
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:00,480
a rather over the generation

762
00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:03,600
that we've been here is has been rather

763
00:28:07,510 --> 00:28:05,840
insular the activity stays inside the

764
00:28:09,190 --> 00:28:07,520
fence i mean the people are very

765
00:28:10,630 --> 00:28:09,200
involved outside the fence involved with

766
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:10,640
their communities their churches their

767
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:12,159
not-for-profits

768
00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:14,159
but the business activity has been

769
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:16,080
inside the fence and the contractors

770
00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:17,840
have responded accordingly

771
00:28:20,789 --> 00:28:19,360
i think what the president is proposing

772
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:20,799
allows us to get more involved in

773
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:22,720
research activity that will engage the

774
00:28:27,269 --> 00:28:24,720
local community on a more effective

775
00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:27,279
manner and integrate collectively all of

776
00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:28,399
us

777
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:30,320
additionally the the conversations that

778
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:32,320
we've been having to date talk about

779
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:34,240
better integrating um there have been

780
00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:36,880
some pilot projects run through

781
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:38,960
like the nasa shuttle logistics depot

782
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:41,679
where they're trying to see if we can't

783
00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:44,960
aggregate the demand of the air force

784
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:47,360
the army and nasa

785
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:49,440
to address industrial base issues

786
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:51,039
because the industrial base the united

787
00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:54,000
states is a big big problem

788
00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:56,080
the federal government is an appallingly

789
00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:59,120
bad customer to the contractor community

790
00:29:01,750 --> 00:29:00,799
because we're buying

791
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:01,760
uh

792
00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:03,919
small pieces that are very expensive

793
00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:06,799
that are only ones and twos it's and

794
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:07,919
you're the

795
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:10,240
the prime contractor the private sector

796
00:29:14,389 --> 00:29:12,640
doesn't really know they don't have a

797
00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:14,399
stable sustained

798
00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:16,799
uh requirement that they can then you

799
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:19,039
know let go out and finance to build the

800
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:21,360
capability to meet that requirement

801
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:22,720
office of secretary of defense is

802
00:29:26,310 --> 00:29:24,240
funding some programs that will allow us

803
00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:26,320
to look can we aggregate that demand so

804
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:27,520
that

805
00:29:32,149 --> 00:29:29,840
the air force and the army and nasa and

806
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:32,159
department of energy are

807
00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:34,080
are collectively knowing what they're

808
00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:36,000
going to be purchasing when and can

809
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:38,480
provide a more sustained

810
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:41,120
demand to the private sector

811
00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:42,799
so that they know what their needs are

812
00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:44,399
going to be what their their big

813
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:46,640
customer is going to want in the in in

814
00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:48,880
the future that they can then go out and

815
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:51,039
borrow money to prepare for and that's

816
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:52,640
particularly important where that really

817
00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:54,960
gets in the industrial base issues

818
00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:56,480
is how that impacts not so much the

819
00:30:00,389 --> 00:29:58,080
primes but the second and third tier

820
00:30:02,230 --> 00:30:00,399
suppliers that's a big problem that's

821
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:02,240
exactly why the shuttle logistics depot

822
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:04,640
came into being because

823
00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:06,559
nasa told them do you want to build a

824
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:07,760
piece of the shuttle because we're going

825
00:30:11,669 --> 00:30:09,840
to fly 50 times a year

826
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:11,679
and you'll be able to build lots of them

827
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:14,080
and they said sure

828
00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:15,919
and then when we ended up flying four or

829
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:17,360
five times a year

830
00:30:20,710 --> 00:30:19,200
they said we don't want any part of this

831
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:20,720
business because we're not making money

832
00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:22,240
and the shuttle logistics depot came

833
00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:23,840
about because

834
00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:26,720
nasa had to take over responsibility for

835
00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:28,559
manufacturing refurbishment all this

836
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:30,000
equipment because the private sector

837
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:31,840
said we don't want your business

838
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:34,320
and that problem is growing nationally

839
00:30:38,549 --> 00:30:36,720
in terms of the federal government being

840
00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:38,559
an unattractive partner to the private

841
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:40,480
sector and if the federal government if

842
00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:42,240
nasa and the air force are unattractive

843
00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:44,240
customers to the private sector we're

844
00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:46,080
all going to pay for it both with

845
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:48,640
increased costs and also the industrial

846
00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:50,720
base which is our primary

847
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:52,159
defense

848
00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:54,640
both militarily intelligence wise and

849
00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:56,480
economically we're undermining the

850
00:30:59,669 --> 00:30:58,080
primary thing that defends the united

851
00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:59,679
states of america i think what the

852
00:31:02,789 --> 00:31:01,200
president is proposing gives us an

853
00:31:05,350 --> 00:31:02,799
opportunity to better integrate those

854
00:31:07,509 --> 00:31:05,360
activities and that's good

855
00:31:09,750 --> 00:31:07,519
i would like to see

856
00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:09,760
florida lead the way because we are sort

857
00:31:13,909 --> 00:31:11,679
of the epicenter at least in space of

858
00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:13,919
both nasa activities the air force

859
00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:15,519
activities and now the commercial

860
00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:18,960
activities um it's going to take some

861
00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:20,799
imagination and some innovation but i

862
00:31:23,590 --> 00:31:22,240
think clearly we have a president an

863
00:31:25,029 --> 00:31:23,600
administration

864
00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:25,039
uh where we're going to have an

865
00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:26,559
opportunity to come forward with good

866
00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:30,630
and i guess i'll just

867
00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:32,240
shut up because i think the purpose of

868
00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:35,200
this is to get audience interaction

869
00:31:42,549 --> 00:31:40,950
thank you very much even though i am was

870
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:42,559
raised in michigan in the mid 20th

871
00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:44,640
century and

872
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:46,640
i won't take it personally but you know

873
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:48,799
that i have not lived there in about 25

874
00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:50,880
years so that has something to do with

875
00:31:54,789 --> 00:31:53,120
it in fact that the job creation and

876
00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:54,799
capability there just did not happen in

877
00:31:59,350 --> 00:31:56,880
time to keep a lot of us

878
00:32:02,310 --> 00:31:59,360
our final speaker is dr may jamison with

879
00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:02,320
a phd from cornell university

880
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:03,840
md

881
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:09,039
spent two and a half years in the area

882
00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:10,960
peace corps as a medical officer for

883
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:13,279
sierra leone she is a veteran of the

884
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:16,799
space shuttle endeavour flight in 1992

885
00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:18,880
she's an advocate for the important role

886
00:32:22,630 --> 00:32:20,159
that the space program plays in

887
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:22,640
inspiring a future generation of

888
00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:24,320
scientists and engineers in fact

889
00:32:29,669 --> 00:32:26,799
inspired me in a talk i believe in 1992

890
00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:29,679
after your flight in chicago once and

891
00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:31,120
she's the founder of the jemison group

892
00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:32,880
and helps lead projects to develop new

893
00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:34,399
technologies as well as bring those

894
00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:36,480
technologies to real people in the

895
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:38,399
places where they can benefit from them

896
00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:39,360
the most

897
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:41,600
so may welcome and we look forward to

898
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:43,440
your remarks

899
00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:45,840
okay thank you i i'm going to tell you

900
00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:48,159
what i did was you're going to finally

901
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:49,519
feel comfortable here at a nasa

902
00:32:53,110 --> 00:32:51,600
presentation because when i was told to

903
00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:53,120
speak they asked me where were my charts

904
00:32:59,269 --> 00:32:55,279
so of course i made charts and so i

905
00:33:03,669 --> 00:33:00,870
i feel really at home now i have to say

906
00:33:05,590 --> 00:33:03,679
a couple things because

907
00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:05,600
my first job with nasa was actually at

908
00:33:09,350 --> 00:33:07,600
kennedy space center as a c-squared

909
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:09,360
coming down all the time

910
00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:10,960
following the vehicles and the thermal

911
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:13,840
protection system and someone just said

912
00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:14,640
um

913
00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:16,240
greg just said you know about being

914
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:18,080
heroes i just want to tell you the real

915
00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:19,840
heroes were the folks who strapped us in

916
00:33:23,590 --> 00:33:22,320
and people asked did you feel uh scared

917
00:33:25,830 --> 00:33:23,600
when you went up and i was like no

918
00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:25,840
because you've never had so many smart

919
00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:27,679
dedicated people looking after you in

920
00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:29,120
your life so i just want to say thank

921
00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:32,720
you about all that before i get started

922
00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:35,279
i was asked to speak about innovation

923
00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:37,840
science technology engineering and

924
00:33:43,029 --> 00:33:40,480
our stem education and how the space

925
00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:43,039
program helps to inspire these

926
00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:44,559
i want to start off by saying when you

927
00:33:49,029 --> 00:33:46,960
talk about innovation

928
00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:49,039
and go to the next slide we talk about

929
00:33:52,710 --> 00:33:50,640
innovation

930
00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:52,720
it's not just about

931
00:33:57,029 --> 00:33:54,480
doing something new

932
00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:57,039
innovation has to be different the quote

933
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:58,559
that you see up there is while other

934
00:34:02,549 --> 00:34:00,320
nations are trying to reach the moon we

935
00:34:05,750 --> 00:34:02,559
are trying to reach the village that

936
00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:05,760
quote was in the 1960s by julius nieri

937
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:07,840
who is the president of tanzania the

938
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:09,520
reason i bring it up is because when i

939
00:34:13,349 --> 00:34:11,599
left nasa the first thing i did was a

940
00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:13,359
teacher course at dartmouth that was

941
00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:14,960
called space age technologies in

942
00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:16,960
developing countries i spent time

943
00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:19,040
overseas but people never started to

944
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:21,679
think about again how these technologies

945
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:22,800
impact

946
00:34:26,790 --> 00:34:24,879
us in lots of different ways and so i

947
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:26,800
wanted my students

948
00:34:28,629 --> 00:34:27,760
to

949
00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:28,639
take

950
00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:31,040
advanced technologies and figure out how

951
00:34:35,109 --> 00:34:33,679
do we use them for development work

952
00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:35,119
place things that don't seem to go

953
00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:37,839
together so one of the students

954
00:34:41,349 --> 00:34:40,000
they worked on things like looking at

955
00:34:42,869 --> 00:34:41,359
can we use satellite-based

956
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:42,879
telecommunications this sounds really

957
00:34:47,109 --> 00:34:44,960
easy right now but this was back in

958
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:47,119
1993-94

959
00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:49,760
can we use satellite-based technologies

960
00:34:52,869 --> 00:34:50,800
to help

961
00:34:54,869 --> 00:34:52,879
look at delivering medical care or

962
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:54,879
facilitating medical care so they design

963
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:56,480
whole systems around it they have to

964
00:35:01,750 --> 00:34:59,760
learn about development work as well as

965
00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:01,760
being overseas we go to the next page

966
00:35:06,069 --> 00:35:03,359
and so what we've heard today i'm not

967
00:35:09,589 --> 00:35:06,079
going to talk about the amount of money

968
00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:09,599
and r d and what happens in terms of you

969
00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:10,960
know for every dollar that goes into

970
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:12,880
nasa seven to ten here in the u.s

971
00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:14,960
economy we know those kind of statistics

972
00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:16,640
i've had people do a much better job

973
00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:19,760
here than i would do initially but let's

974
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:22,240
say that it is not really sufficient

975
00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:24,800
just to think about space exploration in

976
00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:28,400
terms of its uh impact in economic terms

977
00:35:31,030 --> 00:35:29,280
space

978
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:31,040
exploration benefits also have to be

979
00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:33,040
considered from the perspective of

980
00:35:36,710 --> 00:35:35,359
improving quality of life so we heard

981
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:36,720
about some of the things called

982
00:35:40,870 --> 00:35:39,119
spin-offs and things like that

983
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:40,880
but

984
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:42,640
how do we bring it down so people

985
00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:44,400
understand that it improves quality of

986
00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:47,599
life well we can talk about things from

987
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:50,000
medical imaging we can talk about things

988
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:52,160
people take for granted like gps systems

989
00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:54,320
weather satellites and i'm in houston

990
00:35:58,069 --> 00:35:56,000
texas i know here in florida you guys

991
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:58,079
know a whole lot more about hurricanes

992
00:36:02,390 --> 00:36:00,320
and sometimes i do in houston but just

993
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:02,400
right now with hurricane ike some of the

994
00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:04,000
issues associated with getting people

995
00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:05,359
out on time understanding what was

996
00:36:08,390 --> 00:36:06,880
happening really came from weather

997
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:08,400
satellites and people forget when

998
00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:09,760
they're looking at those images that

999
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:11,760
those weather satellites are in space

1000
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:13,520
which is really interesting but those

1001
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:17,440
change and affect our quality of life

1002
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:19,440
those are the issues that people really

1003
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:20,960
understand

1004
00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:22,960
it's nice when we say the really

1005
00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:24,480
big words and

1006
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:25,280
but

1007
00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:27,200
it's the quality of life that makes a

1008
00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:29,200
difference and that's what we want to

1009
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:30,400
talk about

1010
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:32,400
while i was uh teaching i put together a

1011
00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:34,079
project called seeing the future science

1012
00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:35,520
engineering and education and that was

1013
00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:37,520
celebrating the 50th anniversary of the

1014
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:39,200
national science foundation which

1015
00:36:42,790 --> 00:36:41,359
predated nasa a little bit

1016
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:42,800
and

1017
00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:44,560
that one of the things that happened at

1018
00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:46,400
that program we had a bunch of

1019
00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:48,880
scientists from all over the place

1020
00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:50,720
national medal of technology national

1021
00:36:55,750 --> 00:36:53,119
medal of science winners

1022
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:55,760
one of them won a nobel prize later

1023
00:37:01,270 --> 00:36:57,599
they were coming up id with ideas were

1024
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:01,280
what are the best uses for science

1025
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:03,760
and in and technology funding r d

1026
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:05,520
funding from the government for basic

1027
00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:07,520
research they came up with a list of

1028
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:09,599
things that it ought to do and questions

1029
00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:11,200
that ought to be applied to these kinds

1030
00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:13,839
of programs one of the things was does

1031
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:16,160
it create a tool does this research or

1032
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:18,720
this development does it create a tool

1033
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:21,040
that allows other

1034
00:37:25,109 --> 00:37:22,960
scientists to do more work and in fact

1035
00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:25,119
the way one of the participants put it

1036
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:27,359
is the one scientist tools becomes a

1037
00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:30,240
next scientist basic research we can ask

1038
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:33,040
ourselves does nasa do that the other

1039
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:35,040
question they asked was

1040
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:36,960
does it impact

1041
00:37:42,150 --> 00:37:39,680
science and technology education

1042
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:42,160
that research funding should impact

1043
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:44,560
beneficially science and technology

1044
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:46,000
education and they thought that that was

1045
00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:48,320
a requirement so i'm going to put start

1046
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:49,760
to look at a couple of different

1047
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:51,839
specifics that you might not have paid

1048
00:37:56,069 --> 00:37:53,839
attention to or thought had a lot to do

1049
00:37:58,390 --> 00:37:56,079
with nasa the reason i said md is

1050
00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:58,400
because the next slide is going to focus

1051
00:38:01,750 --> 00:37:59,920
in on life sciences and space

1052
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:01,760
exploration i just want to take a little

1053
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:04,079
area that we probably don't think about

1054
00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:07,440
very much and talk about how innovation

1055
00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:09,760
has you know from the space program has

1056
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:11,520
affected life on earth and how it could

1057
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:14,400
do more if we pay attention to it so

1058
00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:16,400
when you look at life sciences and space

1059
00:38:19,589 --> 00:38:17,760
exploration they're incredible

1060
00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:19,599
opportunities and challenges

1061
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:21,520
but basically

1062
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:23,359
what we pay attention to

1063
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:25,680
for life sciences in space exploration

1064
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:28,000
is the fact that we're putting people in

1065
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:30,800
unusual environments you know

1066
00:38:35,109 --> 00:38:33,280
astronauts may not be olympic athlete

1067
00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:35,119
healthy but they're physiologically

1068
00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:37,520
healthy right so we're putting them in

1069
00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:39,359
usual environments seeing what happens

1070
00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:41,440
to their to their bodies they're

1071
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:43,599
enclosed in isolated systems so now we

1072
00:38:47,349 --> 00:38:44,880
have to understand

1073
00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:47,359
from a life scientist perspective

1074
00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:49,280
how do we make sure that those you know

1075
00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:50,720
systems are refreshed how do we feed

1076
00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:51,920
them there's a whole bunch of things

1077
00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:54,320
that go on that are purely life science

1078
00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:56,400
driven in terms of getting people into

1079
00:38:59,510 --> 00:38:57,520
space

1080
00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:59,520
then we can talk about the vantage point

1081
00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:00,560
of space and that's what i'm going to

1082
00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:02,560
come back to the last one i have is

1083
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:04,160
exobiology

1084
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:06,000
you know when you go down to the basis

1085
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:08,720
of life sciences what is life can we

1086
00:39:11,829 --> 00:39:10,400
identify it you know am i i could say

1087
00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:11,839
teasingly you know am i going to find

1088
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:14,000
warf or mr spock depending on how we

1089
00:39:17,910 --> 00:39:16,320
look at it but can we actively

1090
00:39:19,829 --> 00:39:17,920
understand what are some of the basic

1091
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:19,839
principles those things start to

1092
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:23,040
fundamentally affect all that we do

1093
00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:25,760
what we look at but let's go to the idea

1094
00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:28,240
of the vantage point of space so all of

1095
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:30,640
a sudden i'm here up in space and i can

1096
00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:33,119
look back down at the earth what can i

1097
00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:35,359
do with that we go to the next slide

1098
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:37,359
there's a field called landscape

1099
00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:40,000
epidemiology and so i wanted to just

1100
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:41,359
tell you something you might not think

1101
00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:43,760
about space-based remote sensing for

1102
00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:46,000
health on earth

1103
00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:47,040
you know

1104
00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:49,760
how am i going to be up on orbit and

1105
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:51,760
actually understand some of the impacts

1106
00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:54,160
on earth think about it remote sensing i

1107
00:39:58,069 --> 00:39:55,920
know everybody in here there are a lot

1108
00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:58,079
of experts on remote sensing and things

1109
00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:00,000
remote sensing you look at some

1110
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:03,680
characteristics of plants and

1111
00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:05,680
minerals and things on the ground and

1112
00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:07,359
you can infer a lot about the

1113
00:40:11,349 --> 00:40:09,599
environment or the climate from that

1114
00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:11,359
what some really innovative people have

1115
00:40:16,069 --> 00:40:13,839
been able to do is say let's look at

1116
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:16,079
malaria transmission because mosquitoes

1117
00:40:20,510 --> 00:40:18,720
need very specific kinds of requirements

1118
00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:20,520
right so these are just a few

1119
00:40:25,030 --> 00:40:23,599
schistosomiasis a nasty disease that's

1120
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:25,040
transmitted by snails but it's

1121
00:40:29,030 --> 00:40:26,960
associated with water and where water's

1122
00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:29,040
done you can understand a lot about the

1123
00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:30,880
transmission of the diseases

1124
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:32,720
environmental determinants of lyme

1125
00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:34,720
disease when lyme disease one of those

1126
00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:37,520
things that we hear about every day

1127
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:40,400
up in new england it it turns out that

1128
00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:43,520
you need sort of contiguous areas where

1129
00:40:46,309 --> 00:40:44,400
deer

1130
00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:46,319
get to be in contact with humans if you

1131
00:40:50,309 --> 00:40:47,760
don't have that it doesn't happen so you

1132
00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:50,319
can even try to expect where you would

1133
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:52,400
have outbreaks of lyme disease less

1134
00:40:56,710 --> 00:40:54,640
maniasis and chagas disease remote

1135
00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:56,720
sensitive scrap tires

1136
00:41:01,510 --> 00:40:58,560
that doesn't fit in there yeah it does

1137
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:01,520
because scrap tires become a reservoir

1138
00:41:07,829 --> 00:41:05,040
for all kinds of other pathogens so

1139
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:07,839
just thinking of it here's a platform

1140
00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:10,000
space technologies remote sensing that

1141
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:12,079
allows us to do something that we would

1142
00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:14,160
not have a good handle on imagine

1143
00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:16,079
standing down and counting mosquitoes to

1144
00:41:19,829 --> 00:41:17,680
find out whether or not

1145
00:41:21,829 --> 00:41:19,839
you're going to have an epidemic when

1146
00:41:23,109 --> 00:41:21,839
you could sort of look at the geography

1147
00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:23,119
you can look at the environment from

1148
00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:25,040
space the other one i thought was just

1149
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:27,119
really interesting was tracking the the

1150
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:28,800
spread of cholera and when you may have

1151
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:34,069
so what you want to do is if you can

1152
00:41:37,510 --> 00:41:36,400
look at vibrio cholera it has this it's

1153
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:37,520
one of the

1154
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:38,800
you know when they're talking about the

1155
00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:40,640
cholera outbreaks that we expect after

1156
00:41:47,349 --> 00:41:43,760
earthquakes and various other things

1157
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:47,359
it attaches to zooplankton small animals

1158
00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:49,359
i eat phytoplanktons and you can see

1159
00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:51,359
phytoplanktons from space you can see

1160
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:52,880
blooms and they've been able to actually

1161
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:55,680
predict cholera epidemics from that i

1162
00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:57,599
bring these up because that's these are

1163
00:42:01,510 --> 00:41:59,520
one of the areas that i don't think that

1164
00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:01,520
we necessarily pay attention to and

1165
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:02,960
think have anything to do with

1166
00:42:07,589 --> 00:42:05,040
innovation in space

1167
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:07,599
so innovation comes in many different

1168
00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:10,079
forms and fashions but one of the things

1169
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:12,319
that we also need to do with our

1170
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:14,319
space program and that one of the things

1171
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:17,440
that does very well is support support

1172
00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:20,000
science education stems science

1173
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:21,520
technology engineering mathematics

1174
00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:23,760
education if we look at the next slide

1175
00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:25,040
this quote

1176
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:27,920
is about a meaningful science education

1177
00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:29,760
it integrates a student's intellects

1178
00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:31,440
their emotions their interests and their

1179
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:33,440
skills to reproduce a significant sense

1180
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:35,280
of achievement and growth

1181
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:37,200
it bolsters the students confidence in

1182
00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:39,119
their own ability to think to feel to

1183
00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:40,960
take action and to cope with future

1184
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:43,680
challenges it promotes self-esteem

1185
00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:45,920
i put this quote here because dr cheryl

1186
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:48,400
morrow was actually an astrophysicist

1187
00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:50,480
who was at nasa in their education

1188
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:52,480
department when she was looking what

1189
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:54,480
should we do for science education this

1190
00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:57,440
was way back in the the um

1191
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:59,440
in like 1994

1192
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:00,720
and so

1193
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:03,359
nasa's programs do that i'm sitting here

1194
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:04,560
and i have the pleasure of being here

1195
00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:06,400
with bob gabbana

1196
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:08,880
who was an astronaut in fact he's one of

1197
00:43:13,030 --> 00:43:11,040
my one of my bosses also when i was in

1198
00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:13,040
the astronaut program who's here now as

1199
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:14,480
the center director

1200
00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:16,560
leland melvin i believe is in the room

1201
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:18,400
one of the things astronauts are

1202
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:19,839
required to do and pay a lot of

1203
00:43:24,550 --> 00:43:22,240
attention to is science education and

1204
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:24,560
how do we do outreach and that actually

1205
00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:27,760
sticks with us nasa has very

1206
00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:30,079
interesting programs

1207
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:34,710
outreach to people

1208
00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:36,240
if we go to the next slide i want to

1209
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:37,359
tell you about a couple of those

1210
00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:38,560
programs and then i'm going to tell you

1211
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:39,599
about

1212
00:43:44,950 --> 00:43:41,440
programs that i've been doing afterwards

1213
00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:44,960
because charlie bolton asked me to

1214
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:47,440
this is one program that's interesting

1215
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:49,599
it's the nasa spelman college women in

1216
00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:51,680
science and engineering program you see

1217
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:53,200
on the side that there are two studies

1218
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:54,880
that i'm mentioning here one is american

1219
00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:56,960
association of university women's study

1220
00:44:01,510 --> 00:43:59,200
that's called why so few why we don't

1221
00:44:03,430 --> 00:44:01,520
take advantage full advantage of the

1222
00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:03,440
kinds of people that we have in this

1223
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:05,839
country women in terms of being

1224
00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:07,520
scientists and engineers and then

1225
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:09,280
there's a bare facts of science which is

1226
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:11,119
a survey of women and underrepresented

1227
00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:13,440
minority chemists and chemical engineers

1228
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:15,599
those studies came out on about the same

1229
00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:16,720
day

1230
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:20,000
last month those studies said that

1231
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:22,480
if we want to improve

1232
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:24,480
the diversity of our scientific

1233
00:44:28,710 --> 00:44:26,640
workforce then we need to do a number of

1234
00:44:31,349 --> 00:44:28,720
things this is when you all boil it down

1235
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:31,359
those studies said that we can and we

1236
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:32,240
can

1237
00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:33,839
recruit more people but we have to make

1238
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:36,640
sure that they have the exposure to the

1239
00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:39,200
science fields they have experience in

1240
00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:41,599
those fields and there's an expectation

1241
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:44,079
that they're going to do well

1242
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:44,960
and

1243
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:48,160
so i bring up this wise program because

1244
00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:51,280
since 1987 it's been able to graduate

1245
00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:53,520
380 women from spelman college spelman

1246
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:55,599
college if you don't know is one of the

1247
00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:57,040
best liberal arts colleges in the

1248
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:59,839
country um but it's a small

1249
00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:00,800
college

1250
00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:02,640
founded for african-american women a

1251
00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:05,680
number of years ago and this program in

1252
00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:07,520
connection with georgia tech has

1253
00:45:11,109 --> 00:45:09,920
graduated over 380

1254
00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:11,119
women

1255
00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:13,760
who have gone on 60 of them going on to

1256
00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:15,680
get graduate degrees in engineering are

1257
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:18,800
the sciences and 40 have become

1258
00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:21,119
gotten their phds and on top of that

1259
00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:23,760
they have presidential early career

1260
00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:25,839
award winners and number of other things

1261
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:27,359
this program has been really exciting

1262
00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:32,000
and in fact uh dr kelly bolden who is

1263
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:34,480
general bolden's daughter administrator

1264
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:36,240
boulder's daughter went through that

1265
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:37,920
program a number of years ago and

1266
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:40,319
graduated as a chemical engineer and

1267
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:42,960
went on to become a plastic surgeon so i

1268
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:44,480
bring this program up because it

1269
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:46,480
provides internships

1270
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:48,400
because nasa is there it says that we're

1271
00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:50,880
expecting that these students that these

1272
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:53,520
girls will do well in the sciences

1273
00:45:59,910 --> 00:45:56,880
right and it exposes them to a number of

1274
00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:59,920
the myriad of careers that are available

1275
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:01,760
i want to say one other thing about stem

1276
00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:04,079
education and nasa's ability to improve

1277
00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:05,520
diversity i want to go back to the

1278
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:08,000
beginning of nasa i had the pleasure of

1279
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:09,680
narrating this program

1280
00:46:14,710 --> 00:46:10,560
on

1281
00:46:18,790 --> 00:46:14,720
and the space race the unlikely story of

1282
00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:21,349
what's going on here because nasa was in

1283
00:46:24,309 --> 00:46:22,720
the south

1284
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:24,319
primarily its headquarters its

1285
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:26,480
facilities were in the south nasa also

1286
00:46:31,750 --> 00:46:29,680
had a mandate to make sure that they

1287
00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:31,760
brought in

1288
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:35,440
other kinds of folks right and so nasa

1289
00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:36,720
sort of

1290
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:39,839
required that communities right here in

1291
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:40,960
you know

1292
00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:43,520
broward county other places that they

1293
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:46,240
have african-americans and others in the

1294
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,240
program so

1295
00:46:52,870 --> 00:46:50,319
it really caused

1296
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:52,880
communities and

1297
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:54,960
installations to change the way they do

1298
00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:57,200
things even in marshall space flight

1299
00:47:01,510 --> 00:46:59,760
center at johnson space flight center

1300
00:47:03,430 --> 00:47:01,520
it was something that pushed the

1301
00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:03,440
barriers

1302
00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:05,760
when you know perhaps we weren't even

1303
00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:07,280
thinking that they could be pushed in

1304
00:47:12,069 --> 00:47:10,160
that same way so i bring that up because

1305
00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:12,079
it's important so

1306
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:13,920
i also said that

1307
00:47:17,109 --> 00:47:15,680
you know once you pay attention to this

1308
00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:17,119
stuff

1309
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:18,720
it sort of sticks to your hits and

1310
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:21,359
sticks so when i left nasa besides some

1311
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:23,119
of the other things i did one of the

1312
00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:24,960
things i was committed to was science

1313
00:47:30,549 --> 00:47:28,400
and technology uh education and i always

1314
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:30,559
was interested in science literacy so i

1315
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:32,880
want to just talk about programs charlie

1316
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:34,079
asked me to make sure i talk about a

1317
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:36,160
couple okay a couple of programs i have

1318
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:37,680
one is called the earth we share you can

1319
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:39,119
put on the next slide and you can just

1320
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:41,200
gonna cycle through some of the pictures

1321
00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:42,880
of students who come from all around the

1322
00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:44,720
world and they work on global dilemmas

1323
00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:46,319
like predict the hot public stocks the

1324
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:48,079
year 2030 design the world's perfect

1325
00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:49,839
house i'm not sure how the pictures are

1326
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:51,359
going through you can just keep flipping

1327
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:53,520
through them but what the students do is

1328
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:56,400
they actually have to come and they work

1329
00:48:00,309 --> 00:47:58,800
for four weeks and we train teachers the

1330
00:48:01,990 --> 00:48:00,319
reason why this is really important and

1331
00:48:04,710 --> 00:48:02,000
charlie wanted me to tell you about it

1332
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:04,720
is because it's about science literacy

1333
00:48:08,390 --> 00:48:06,480
it's about all students becoming

1334
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:08,400
literate in science not just about the

1335
00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:09,760
next generation of professional

1336
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:12,160
scientists and the last if we go to the

1337
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:13,040
next

1338
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:14,319
slide if we go all the way through it

1339
00:48:17,349 --> 00:48:15,920
this young man was

1340
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:17,359
someone who could have gone to a

1341
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:19,440
basketball camp he was a basketball star

1342
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:22,079
in new york city but

1343
00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:23,920
he wanted to go to a science program

1344
00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:25,359
because he thought that was important

1345
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:27,280
but we needed to have it there and if we

1346
00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:29,520
go to the final slide with and flip

1347
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:31,440
through this this was a program called

1348
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:33,040
celebrating women of color in flight

1349
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:35,680
girls day out we were talking about

1350
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:38,160
changing our adding to the face of who

1351
00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:40,480
does aviation in aerospace so many times

1352
00:48:44,069 --> 00:48:42,400
people don't think of women as being

1353
00:48:46,069 --> 00:48:44,079
involved in aviation and aerospace and

1354
00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:46,079
they also think of the jobs as only

1355
00:48:51,910 --> 00:48:49,119
being those that are phds and

1356
00:48:53,829 --> 00:48:51,920
and graduate degrees but the people who

1357
00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:53,839
i counted on to keep me safe from

1358
00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:55,280
because they put on the tile on the

1359
00:49:00,150 --> 00:48:58,079
shuttle or dressed me in my suit they

1360
00:49:02,150 --> 00:49:00,160
were high school graduates and so what

1361
00:49:04,309 --> 00:49:02,160
we wanted to do was to change the ideas

1362
00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:04,319
of who could do space exploration and

1363
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:06,319
what kinds of jobs you could be involved

1364
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:09,040
with so we had people from a woman who

1365
00:49:12,549 --> 00:49:10,800
was the second highest ranking person in

1366
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:12,559
indian air force all the way to the

1367
00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:14,559
woman who actually was my suit tech at

1368
00:49:18,630 --> 00:49:16,720
kennedy space center and they all came

1369
00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:18,640
and helped to change the face of what we

1370
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:20,880
think of aviation aerospace and so if we

1371
00:49:26,950 --> 00:49:23,440
find it finally end up with the last

1372
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:26,960
slide what i would say is

1373
00:49:30,069 --> 00:49:28,480
i guess we didn't change the girls day

1374
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:30,079
out okay it's gonna you can flip through

1375
00:49:33,829 --> 00:49:32,400
those really quickly

1376
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:33,839
that's what happens when you don't have

1377
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:35,680
control of your own

1378
00:49:39,430 --> 00:49:37,440
uh you can keep going

1379
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:39,440
it's just like nice pictures of people

1380
00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:40,720
see i can't

1381
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:42,640
can you all see okay

1382
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:44,559
and but nasa was one of the things that

1383
00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:46,240
really supported that got them excited

1384
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:48,640
about it so julius nerey said while

1385
00:49:51,349 --> 00:49:49,760
other people are trying to reach the

1386
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:51,359
moon they're trying to reach the village

1387
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:53,040
i think that by not only reaching for

1388
00:49:57,190 --> 00:49:55,119
the moon but beyond we can make the

1389
00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:57,200
quality of life better in the village

1390
00:50:01,510 --> 00:49:59,440
whether we talk about here in the small

1391
00:50:03,829 --> 00:50:01,520
places here in the u.s large village

1392
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:03,839
villages like new york city or if we go

1393
00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:06,480
overseas it's how we apply it it's the

1394
00:50:17,829 --> 00:50:09,440
innovation the stem education and the

1395
00:50:21,910 --> 00:50:19,670
thank you so much may the societal

1396
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:21,920
benefits that you mention are definitely

1397
00:50:26,549 --> 00:50:24,480
a key part of the president's plan

1398
00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:26,559
moving forward and if i can in our

1399
00:50:31,109 --> 00:50:28,559
remaining time try

1400
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:31,119
to allow a couple of you to be able to

1401
00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:33,359
participate with us i want to highlight

1402
00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:37,359
some of the specific areas for florida

1403
00:50:41,589 --> 00:50:39,119
in addition to what dale talked about

1404
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:41,599
specifically we have several aspects of

1405
00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:43,440
our plan and our budget going forward

1406
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:45,920
the first being the 21st century launch

1407
00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:47,520
complex and a lot of what talk was

1408
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:49,520
talked about here are things that will

1409
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:50,800
be

1410
00:50:57,349 --> 00:50:55,440
investment and we uniquely have the head

1411
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:57,359
of the kennedy space center here so i'm

1412
00:51:02,790 --> 00:51:00,559
interested in uh getting a microphone up

1413
00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:02,800
front first of all for

1414
00:51:07,109 --> 00:51:05,359
bob cabana if you could talk to us a

1415
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:07,119
little bit bob about

1416
00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:09,280
nasa's investment over the next five

1417
00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:11,280
years in the 21st century launch complex

1418
00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:14,319
the 1.9 billion here in florida

1419
00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:15,599
what do you think the benefits are going

1420
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:18,319
to be of this investment and

1421
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:20,160
what will they have both for launch

1422
00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:22,079
operations on the space coast and if i

1423
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:24,880
could after um since we have also uh

1424
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:26,640
general taylor here having him respond

1425
00:51:30,309 --> 00:51:28,800
as well sure lori well as soon as the

1426
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:30,319
president's budget came out we started

1427
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:32,160
looking at what can we do to become more

1428
00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:34,880
efficient and improve our facilities and

1429
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:36,640
we need to do it for a number of reasons

1430
00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:38,079
first off as dale said we have to

1431
00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:39,599
diversify but if we're going to attract

1432
00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:41,760
business into the future and really have

1433
00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:44,319
a vibrant space program we have to learn

1434
00:51:48,150 --> 00:51:45,760
how to be more efficient and do it

1435
00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:48,160
better and we've got 1960s architecture

1436
00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:50,240
down here there's a lot of improvements

1437
00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:52,000
we can make to the pad a lot of ways

1438
00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:54,000
that we can do things better and if you

1439
00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:55,680
look at the range and

1440
00:51:59,109 --> 00:51:57,119
you know what we run into trying to

1441
00:52:01,270 --> 00:51:59,119
schedule and how we can work better in

1442
00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:01,280
that regard too with today's technology

1443
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:02,720
i think there's a lot a lot of

1444
00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:04,720
opportunity for us to

1445
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:06,240
cooperate with the air force and we have

1446
00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:07,440
a tremendous

1447
00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:09,359
working relationship with the 45th space

1448
00:52:13,670 --> 00:52:11,920
wing i think it's really good and if you

1449
00:52:15,990 --> 00:52:13,680
don't just look at kennedy but look back

1450
00:52:17,829 --> 00:52:16,000
at the launch complex as a whole i think

1451
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:17,839
that's really important and having this

1452
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:19,920
money to not only look at how we can

1453
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:22,079
improve the facilities but improve the

1454
00:52:25,349 --> 00:52:23,760
payload processing the facilities that

1455
00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:25,359
we have available to move payloads

1456
00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:27,599
through at the cape um to take care of

1457
00:52:30,549 --> 00:52:28,960
some of the environmental concerns that

1458
00:52:33,190 --> 00:52:30,559
we've had over the years

1459
00:52:35,349 --> 00:52:33,200
at the different sites it's really going

1460
00:52:38,309 --> 00:52:35,359
to be good overall for kennedy space

1461
00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:38,319
center and i think for our nation if we

1462
00:52:43,109 --> 00:52:40,240
can move forward have a commercial

1463
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:43,119
capability have a robust uh range and

1464
00:52:47,270 --> 00:52:45,200
processing capability for launching

1465
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:47,280
working together to improve our future

1466
00:52:52,950 --> 00:52:49,520
so i see it as very positive for the

1467
00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:52,960
kennedy space center and for the nation

1468
00:52:56,470 --> 00:52:54,880
thanks general kaler well a couple of

1469
00:53:02,470 --> 00:52:56,480
things let me make a few observations

1470
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:04,710
i watched the nasa channel

1471
00:53:07,030 --> 00:53:06,000
and i've always wanted to be on the nasa

1472
00:53:09,349 --> 00:53:07,040
channel so

1473
00:53:11,430 --> 00:53:09,359
um you know that's the first observation

1474
00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:11,440
i would make yeah exactly

1475
00:53:16,069 --> 00:53:12,720
exactly

1476
00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:16,079
yeah uh sec second thing uh that i would

1477
00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:18,720
say is i would just pile on to the

1478
00:53:23,190 --> 00:53:20,800
comments that have been made about how

1479
00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:23,200
space is woven into the fabric of how we

1480
00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:24,319
live today

1481
00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:25,680
uh

1482
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:28,000
you you only have to look as far as gps

1483
00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:30,000
to see something that was

1484
00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:32,240
built and intended for national security

1485
00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:34,880
purposes that has now found itself

1486
00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:36,800
woven through

1487
00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:39,200
everything we do literally and you know

1488
00:53:43,349 --> 00:53:40,880
the u.s air force finds itself a very

1489
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:43,359
interesting position with gps that we

1490
00:53:47,670 --> 00:53:45,680
are now doing something for planet earth

1491
00:53:49,510 --> 00:53:47,680
and uh it's not a position that a

1492
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:49,520
service always finds itself in but we've

1493
00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:51,359
embraced that and and we think that

1494
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:53,599
we've become pretty good stewards of all

1495
00:53:58,309 --> 00:53:55,680
of that uh and so that leads me to the

1496
00:53:59,190 --> 00:53:58,319
third point which is partnerships

1497
00:54:01,430 --> 00:53:59,200
since

1498
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:01,440
the beginning of the space age in the

1499
00:54:05,670 --> 00:54:03,520
united states the united states air

1500
00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:05,680
force and nasa have been partners

1501
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:08,000
and we see that partnership

1502
00:54:11,030 --> 00:54:08,880
being

1503
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:11,040
enduring and and we think we've been

1504
00:54:14,470 --> 00:54:13,200
pretty good partners together over the

1505
00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:14,480
years so

1506
00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:17,520
i would just uh make as an observation

1507
00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:18,400
that

1508
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:22,800
to resonate with all of us

1509
00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:26,160
partnership because i do believe that

1510
00:54:29,430 --> 00:54:27,839
that this continued partnership is going

1511
00:54:31,589 --> 00:54:29,440
to be very important for us so that

1512
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:31,599
leads me to the next observation which

1513
00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:33,119
is opportunity

1514
00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:33,920
and

1515
00:54:37,109 --> 00:54:34,880
i would

1516
00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:37,119
echo what bob said particularly with

1517
00:54:42,309 --> 00:54:40,160
investment opportunity in this 21st

1518
00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:42,319
century launch complex

1519
00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:43,760
you know the partnership that we have

1520
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:46,000
over the years and certainly the one

1521
00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:47,520
that we've developed here

1522
00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:48,480
you can go out and see where the

1523
00:54:51,829 --> 00:54:50,400
boundaries are between cape canaveral

1524
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:51,839
air force station and kennedy space

1525
00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:55,200
center but it's a fence boundary only we

1526
00:54:59,190 --> 00:54:56,960
can't view that as a boundary as we look

1527
00:55:01,030 --> 00:54:59,200
to the future i think that there's more

1528
00:55:02,390 --> 00:55:01,040
advantage and opportunity in not seeing

1529
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:02,400
that as a boundary than there is in

1530
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:04,559
seeing it as a boundary so we're

1531
00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:07,680
encouraged by the investment opportunity

1532
00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:10,559
that that i think we've seen out of out

1533
00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:12,559
of nasa

1534
00:55:16,390 --> 00:55:14,559
and how we might leverage that with

1535
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:16,400
investment that the air force can make

1536
00:55:19,990 --> 00:55:18,400
and how we can go forward together the

1537
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:20,000
final thing that i would say and the

1538
00:55:24,069 --> 00:55:21,440
final observation i would make though is

1539
00:55:26,150 --> 00:55:24,079
there's there are challenges and uh

1540
00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:26,160
someone talked about the industrial base

1541
00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:29,520
and uh my view is that as we go forward

1542
00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:31,599
together we've got to be mindful that

1543
00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:33,680
this partnership and this opportunity

1544
00:55:38,069 --> 00:55:35,440
that we have has got to make our

1545
00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:38,079
industrial base better because we do

1546
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:39,839
have some really significant challenges

1547
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:41,200
here you know we have the air force and

1548
00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:42,880
nasa have leveraged one another over the

1549
00:55:47,910 --> 00:55:46,240
years in investment nasa has invested in

1550
00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:47,920
certain kind of propulsion or the air

1551
00:55:52,549 --> 00:55:50,319
force has invested in something uh and

1552
00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:52,559
and we have we have fed off of one

1553
00:55:56,470 --> 00:55:54,960
another as the years have gone by and i

1554
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:56,480
think that will be very important as we

1555
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:58,000
meet this industrial-based challenge as

1556
00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:00,720
we look to the future and and make sure

1557
00:56:05,109 --> 00:56:03,680
that we are being mindful of this

1558
00:56:06,470 --> 00:56:05,119
partnership that we've had for all this

1559
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:06,480
time

1560
00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:08,720
great thank you very much and just a

1561
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:10,799
follow-up to that to stick with the

1562
00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:13,680
local theme is that as i think folks

1563
00:56:17,190 --> 00:56:15,359
have recognized that the president has

1564
00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:17,200
announced this economic development

1565
00:56:20,630 --> 00:56:18,880
action plan for florida we're going to

1566
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:20,640
be focusing 40 million dollars in the

1567
00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:23,040
administration's uh budget on this with

1568
00:56:27,270 --> 00:56:24,640
this task force that he just mentioned

1569
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:27,280
due on his death august 25th john

1570
00:56:30,309 --> 00:56:29,200
fernandez is here from the department of

1571
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:30,319
commerce if we could get him a

1572
00:56:35,109 --> 00:56:32,960
microphone i just want to

1573
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:35,119
mainly have people see him and have him

1574
00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:38,000
give us a few more details about how the

1575
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:39,599
commerce department is going to work

1576
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:41,200
with the local communities here john is

1577
00:56:44,789 --> 00:56:42,319
the assistant secretary at the

1578
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:44,799
department of commerce for economic

1579
00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:46,319
development

1580
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:48,880
great thanks floyd excuse me

1581
00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:51,520
i'll be brief i think the

1582
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:53,680
most important part about moving forward

1583
00:56:56,309 --> 00:56:54,720
with

1584
00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:56,319
this part of the plan is really that

1585
00:57:01,109 --> 00:56:58,960
it's going to be the region's plan

1586
00:57:02,870 --> 00:57:01,119
to respond to the changes that are going

1587
00:57:04,950 --> 00:57:02,880
to occur here

1588
00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:04,960
to absorb some of the employment issues

1589
00:57:09,030 --> 00:57:06,480
but also to accelerate the

1590
00:57:10,870 --> 00:57:09,040
commercialization business creation job

1591
00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:10,880
creation elements of what's going to

1592
00:57:14,789 --> 00:57:13,040
happen here is it really has to be from

1593
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:14,799
a much broader regional

1594
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:16,079
perspective

1595
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:18,480
and uh you know in the coming days as we

1596
00:57:23,109 --> 00:57:20,880
map out our team

1597
00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:23,119
and start accelerating the development

1598
00:57:25,910 --> 00:57:24,799
of the plan that the president's asked

1599
00:57:27,589 --> 00:57:25,920
for

1600
00:57:29,190 --> 00:57:27,599
you certainly can expect to see me

1601
00:57:30,549 --> 00:57:29,200
around here and i need to need all of

1602
00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:30,559
your help it's really going to be the

1603
00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:32,480
region's plan not ours

1604
00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:34,079
we can't parachute in here and tell you

1605
00:57:37,270 --> 00:57:36,160
what that plan is but we certainly can

1606
00:57:38,230 --> 00:57:37,280
help

1607
00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:38,240
you

1608
00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:40,480
help us as we put together this kind of

1609
00:57:43,829 --> 00:57:42,400
strategy to move forward so i look

1610
00:57:47,109 --> 00:57:43,839
forward to working with you all as we go

1611
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:47,119
forward thank you very much john and and

1612
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:49,200
now i'd just like to rise it up a bit to

1613
00:57:54,150 --> 00:57:51,520
that general economic development and

1614
00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:54,160
innovation uh issue that really

1615
00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:56,720
underpins this uh budget and our whole

1616
00:58:00,309 --> 00:57:59,280
space economy that we're hoping to help

1617
00:58:02,390 --> 00:58:00,319
create

1618
00:58:05,270 --> 00:58:02,400
with esther dyson i see you here and

1619
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:05,280
you're the chair of our innovation

1620
00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:07,359
and technology subcommittee of our nasa

1621
00:58:11,829 --> 00:58:08,640
advisory council so if i could get a

1622
00:58:13,829 --> 00:58:11,839
microphone up front you have worked past

1623
00:58:15,190 --> 00:58:13,839
with uh sectors that have been

1624
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:15,200
transitioning from government to the

1625
00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:16,480
private sector and i wonder if you have

1626
00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:18,880
any advice for us and things that we can

1627
00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:20,880
do to do this more successfully

1628
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:23,760
thanks lori yeah not only have i worked

1629
00:58:28,630 --> 00:58:26,079
i watched the transition

1630
00:58:30,789 --> 00:58:28,640
not the end of mainframes but the rise

1631
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:30,799
of the pcs which became an incredibly

1632
00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:33,280
vibrant industry i watched the internet

1633
00:58:37,349 --> 00:58:34,880
turn commercial

1634
00:58:40,150 --> 00:58:37,359
and i've seen a lot of things i'm also a

1635
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:40,160
journalist and so my natural instinct is

1636
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:41,119
to

1637
00:58:45,349 --> 00:58:42,480
disagree

1638
00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:45,359
and to be cynical but this

1639
00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:46,880
this stuff is all believable and the

1640
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:48,880
reason it's believable is because i have

1641
00:58:52,470 --> 00:58:51,280
seen it happen before specifically with

1642
00:58:54,549 --> 00:58:52,480
the internet

1643
00:58:56,630 --> 00:58:54,559
when when it started to go commercial

1644
00:58:57,990 --> 00:58:56,640
when the government said look we'll

1645
00:59:00,470 --> 00:58:58,000
we'll we've done the fundamental

1646
00:59:02,230 --> 00:59:00,480
research but you guys you turn this

1647
00:59:04,150 --> 00:59:02,240
stuff commercial send it sell it to

1648
00:59:06,390 --> 00:59:04,160
normal people

1649
00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:06,400
the equivalent of space tourists were

1650
00:59:09,430 --> 00:59:08,160
companies that used the internet to

1651
00:59:12,150 --> 00:59:09,440
promote

1652
00:59:14,710 --> 00:59:12,160
sales seminars and there was a huge

1653
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:14,720
controversy that the sacred internet was

1654
00:59:22,069 --> 00:59:19,510
used by these sleazy commercial people

1655
00:59:24,069 --> 00:59:22,079
to do marketing things how disgusting

1656
00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:24,079
and i'm here wearing a space adventures

1657
00:59:27,349 --> 00:59:25,040
jacket

1658
00:59:28,390 --> 00:59:27,359
people would put logos on spacecraft how

1659
00:59:29,750 --> 00:59:28,400
terrible

1660
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:29,760
but in fact

1661
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:32,400
these commercial energies are what

1662
00:59:36,230 --> 00:59:34,799
create new industries uh everything

1663
00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:36,240
we've described today is stuff we

1664
00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:38,480
already know about what's exciting

1665
00:59:41,349 --> 00:59:40,000
is things are going to happen that we

1666
00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:41,359
don't know about we're going to start

1667
00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:43,200
mining asteroids we're going to start

1668
00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:46,079
creating pharmaceuticals in space we're

1669
00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:47,839
going to discover all kinds of things

1670
00:59:53,990 --> 00:59:50,160
and a lot of it may be frivolous people

1671
00:59:57,270 --> 00:59:55,750
buzz aldrin danced on whatever it was

1672
00:59:59,589 --> 00:59:57,280
dancing with the stars pretty soon

1673
01:00:01,589 --> 00:59:59,599
somebody will be dancing in the stars

1674
01:00:04,150 --> 01:00:01,599
and they'll spend money and other people

1675
01:00:05,349 --> 01:00:04,160
will get jobs allowing people to do

1676
01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:05,359
things that are both scientific and

1677
01:00:07,829 --> 01:00:06,640
useful but also things that are

1678
01:00:10,789 --> 01:00:07,839
frivolous

1679
01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:10,799
and i love it i fund these companies and

1680
01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:11,760
i think

1681
01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:13,920
when we talk about jobs they're going to

1682
01:00:18,150 --> 01:00:15,920
be lots of jobs created by small

1683
01:00:19,750 --> 01:00:18,160
companies you've never heard of that

1684
01:00:21,910 --> 01:00:19,760
don't even want government funding

1685
01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:21,920
they're just going to be out going

1686
01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:24,000
doing new things

1687
01:00:28,069 --> 01:00:26,160
okay thank you that's that's really

1688
01:00:31,030 --> 01:00:28,079
interesting i do think that there are a

1689
01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:31,040
lot of similarities in space has we've

1690
01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:32,480
protected ourselves thinking we're

1691
01:00:35,589 --> 01:00:34,240
special and we are special but that

1692
01:00:37,589 --> 01:00:35,599
means we can

1693
01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:37,599
uh even do those things as you mentioned

1694
01:00:41,430 --> 01:00:39,760
that we can't even dream of yet but on

1695
01:00:42,789 --> 01:00:41,440
the jobs topic let me just while i have

1696
01:00:45,270 --> 01:00:42,799
karissa christensen who's the head of

1697
01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:45,280
the tory group who i know recently did

1698
01:00:49,829 --> 01:00:47,680
the research uh that

1699
01:00:51,109 --> 01:00:49,839
where um i believe it was released a

1700
01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:51,119
couple days ago that talks about the

1701
01:00:57,430 --> 01:00:54,240
president's plan thanks and how uh

1702
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:57,440
job creation with this uh budget exceeds

1703
01:01:02,069 --> 01:00:59,359
the previous plan could you talk about

1704
01:01:04,309 --> 01:01:02,079
that study i i would be delighted to

1705
01:01:06,470 --> 01:01:04,319
laurie what we looked at specifically

1706
01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:06,480
was the number of jobs that would be

1707
01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:08,400
associated with nasa's expenditure of

1708
01:01:10,870 --> 01:01:09,359
the new

1709
01:01:13,430 --> 01:01:10,880
the budget line item associated with

1710
01:01:16,309 --> 01:01:13,440
commercial crew and commercial cargo

1711
01:01:17,910 --> 01:01:16,319
it was an arm's length study independent

1712
01:01:19,589 --> 01:01:17,920
uh estimate

1713
01:01:22,390 --> 01:01:19,599
people come to us when they want good

1714
01:01:24,789 --> 01:01:22,400
information for decision making we

1715
01:01:27,190 --> 01:01:24,799
developed the numbers using a federal

1716
01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:27,200
economic input output model what would

1717
01:01:32,470 --> 01:01:29,920
you mean accurate oh that is our intent

1718
01:01:34,870 --> 01:01:32,480
absolutely and neil neil knows me well

1719
01:01:37,190 --> 01:01:34,880
and uh has heard me speak many times on

1720
01:01:39,510 --> 01:01:37,200
the fact that the firm that i found it

1721
01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:39,520
its purpose is to provide objective

1722
01:01:45,270 --> 01:01:42,160
input to decision makers so that meal

1723
01:01:46,390 --> 01:01:45,280
means not good as in desirable in terms

1724
01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:46,400
of the

1725
01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:48,240
the output was known before we started

1726
01:01:53,030 --> 01:01:51,040
but accurate uh methodologically

1727
01:01:54,630 --> 01:01:53,040
rigorous you can go to our website and

1728
01:01:56,470 --> 01:01:54,640
see a presentation that for almost all

1729
01:01:58,549 --> 01:01:56,480
of you will be deeply boring but i

1730
01:02:00,309 --> 01:01:58,559
believe satisfying in terms of the

1731
01:02:01,990 --> 01:02:00,319
specifics of the methodology that we

1732
01:02:04,230 --> 01:02:02,000
used the model that we used the

1733
01:02:05,589 --> 01:02:04,240
scenarios that we looked at so the

1734
01:02:09,349 --> 01:02:05,599
question was

1735
01:02:11,670 --> 01:02:09,359
for this 6.11 billion dollars over five

1736
01:02:13,510 --> 01:02:11,680
years what would be the jobs that would

1737
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:13,520
result from that the numbers uh that

1738
01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:15,359
came out from that were on average of

1739
01:02:19,829 --> 01:02:17,760
each year as you spend that money just

1740
01:02:22,150 --> 01:02:19,839
from spending that money about eleven

1741
01:02:24,710 --> 01:02:22,160
thousand eight hundred jobs the spending

1742
01:02:27,589 --> 01:02:24,720
profile of the budget varies so the jobs

1743
01:02:29,990 --> 01:02:27,599
vary uh from an initial ramp up year of

1744
01:02:33,349 --> 01:02:30,000
about seventy five hundred to a peak of

1745
01:02:34,789 --> 01:02:33,359
about of um more than fourteen thousand

1746
01:02:36,870 --> 01:02:34,799
the other point that i want to make that

1747
01:02:38,870 --> 01:02:36,880
i think is very important here is that

1748
01:02:41,589 --> 01:02:38,880
this represents that direct spending by

1749
01:02:44,710 --> 01:02:41,599
nasa on commercial providers private

1750
01:02:46,390 --> 01:02:44,720
sector providers it does not uh attempt

1751
01:02:48,150 --> 01:02:46,400
to estimate the jobs that will be

1752
01:02:49,990 --> 01:02:48,160
developed that will result from the

1753
01:02:52,309 --> 01:02:50,000
attraction of additional investment in

1754
01:02:55,190 --> 01:02:52,319
those companies so i think that it's our

1755
01:02:57,589 --> 01:02:55,200
intent was to provide a a very credible

1756
01:02:59,910 --> 01:02:57,599
number specifically associated with that

1757
01:03:01,430 --> 01:02:59,920
budget to support decision making

1758
01:03:03,670 --> 01:03:01,440
very interesting i can't help it since

1759
01:03:05,750 --> 01:03:03,680
neil chimed in and neil was due to be at

1760
01:03:08,230 --> 01:03:05,760
one of the other panels but cared the

1761
01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:08,240
most about harnessing space to expand

1762
01:03:14,150 --> 01:03:11,680
economic opportunity so tell me neil why

1763
01:03:17,190 --> 01:03:14,160
uh for this panel i i have heard you

1764
01:03:19,190 --> 01:03:17,200
speak on this uh topic in the past and i

1765
01:03:21,910 --> 01:03:19,200
i know you have strong views about it

1766
01:03:24,710 --> 01:03:21,920
i yes i do have some strong views and

1767
01:03:26,069 --> 01:03:24,720
many in fact i think are unorthodox so

1768
01:03:27,589 --> 01:03:26,079
if i may share them

1769
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:27,599
with this panel

1770
01:03:33,589 --> 01:03:30,400
uh and and this audience uh first of all

1771
01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:33,599
i think uh may you speak

1772
01:03:39,109 --> 01:03:36,000
you speak marvelously about all of the

1773
01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:39,119
impact that spinoff products can have

1774
01:03:42,230 --> 01:03:40,960
spinoff technologies can have on the

1775
01:03:43,750 --> 01:03:42,240
quality of life on earth there's no

1776
01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:43,760
doubt about that

1777
01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:44,799
however

1778
01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:46,559
there are other sort of spin-offs from

1779
01:03:50,789 --> 01:03:48,720
other industries that also improve the

1780
01:03:52,950 --> 01:03:50,799
quality of life and so what you've

1781
01:03:54,470 --> 01:03:52,960
described while it happens to come from

1782
01:03:57,109 --> 01:03:54,480
space technologies

1783
01:03:58,950 --> 01:03:57,119
does not sit uniquely among things that

1784
01:04:01,029 --> 01:03:58,960
can change people's lives because they

1785
01:04:03,270 --> 01:04:01,039
can look to other places for things that

1786
01:04:04,470 --> 01:04:03,280
change their lives i guess the point i'm

1787
01:04:06,789 --> 01:04:04,480
making is

1788
01:04:08,390 --> 01:04:06,799
that here

1789
01:04:10,870 --> 01:04:08,400
how does the public

1790
01:04:12,870 --> 01:04:10,880
distinguish nasa as a means of improving

1791
01:04:15,510 --> 01:04:12,880
their lives from anything else that goes

1792
01:04:16,630 --> 01:04:15,520
on in a in a funded society from

1793
01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:16,640
improving their lives because we're

1794
01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:18,079
trying to make that distinction and if

1795
01:04:22,950 --> 01:04:20,160
we can't make that distinction we cannot

1796
01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:22,960
justify in congress to have nasa get

1797
01:04:27,589 --> 01:04:24,640
more money than some other agency that

1798
01:04:29,910 --> 01:04:27,599
claims to be stimulating the economy for

1799
01:04:31,829 --> 01:04:29,920
example the national science foundation

1800
01:04:33,349 --> 01:04:31,839
or the national institutes

1801
01:04:35,589 --> 01:04:33,359
where science is getting funded and

1802
01:04:38,150 --> 01:04:35,599
there's tech transfer in those pro in

1803
01:04:39,750 --> 01:04:38,160
those in the in those funding umbrellas

1804
01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:39,760
so what i claim

1805
01:04:43,270 --> 01:04:41,920
that's behind all of this

1806
01:04:45,510 --> 01:04:43,280
is that

1807
01:04:47,190 --> 01:04:45,520
it's not simply that you have a spin-off

1808
01:04:50,069 --> 01:04:47,200
technology

1809
01:04:52,710 --> 01:04:50,079
it's that you stimulate somebody to want

1810
01:04:54,710 --> 01:04:52,720
to be a scientist in the first place

1811
01:04:57,029 --> 01:04:54,720
and no one's really mentioned that

1812
01:04:59,270 --> 01:04:57,039
we say well there's a program and yeah

1813
01:05:00,390 --> 01:04:59,280
sorry you say well here's some here's a

1814
01:05:01,829 --> 01:05:00,400
um

1815
01:05:03,670 --> 01:05:01,839
here's a program that'll help people

1816
01:05:05,190 --> 01:05:03,680
become scientists

1817
01:05:07,270 --> 01:05:05,200
i submit

1818
01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:07,280
that there's a more powerful force that

1819
01:05:11,829 --> 01:05:10,160
no one is identifying here it's not that

1820
01:05:13,750 --> 01:05:11,839
you funded a program that promotes

1821
01:05:15,910 --> 01:05:13,760
scientists it's that

1822
01:05:17,910 --> 01:05:15,920
nasa does something that makes people

1823
01:05:20,309 --> 01:05:17,920
want to become scientists even without

1824
01:05:23,109 --> 01:05:20,319
programs and when you have when you

1825
01:05:24,069 --> 01:05:23,119
infuse when you when you

1826
01:05:27,589 --> 01:05:24,079
when you

1827
01:05:30,710 --> 01:05:27,599
ignite an entire educational pipeline of

1828
01:05:33,190 --> 01:05:30,720
ambition because nasa has the ambition

1829
01:05:34,870 --> 01:05:33,200
then everything else falls into place

1830
01:05:36,630 --> 01:05:34,880
everything because you have people who

1831
01:05:37,349 --> 01:05:36,640
want to be scientists and they'll dig up

1832
01:05:43,670 --> 01:05:37,359
the

1833
01:05:46,150 --> 01:05:43,680
to talk to

1834
01:05:47,589 --> 01:05:46,160
um in the 1960s i don't know that we had

1835
01:05:49,109 --> 01:05:47,599
all these programs that everybody's

1836
01:05:50,549 --> 01:05:49,119
talking about to try to stimulate

1837
01:05:52,710 --> 01:05:50,559
interest in science because you didn't

1838
01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:52,720
have to try to stimulate it it was in

1839
01:05:55,829 --> 01:05:54,000
our face

1840
01:05:58,069 --> 01:05:55,839
everybody wanted to do it because there

1841
01:05:59,270 --> 01:05:58,079
was a bold mission that nasa had laid

1842
01:06:01,829 --> 01:05:59,280
out in front of it

1843
01:06:04,150 --> 01:06:01,839
so i want at some point somebody to say

1844
01:06:06,390 --> 01:06:04,160
that when we're ready to go to mars we

1845
01:06:08,309 --> 01:06:06,400
start selecting that astronaut class and

1846
01:06:10,309 --> 01:06:08,319
maybe that astronaut class are

1847
01:06:13,029 --> 01:06:10,319
middle school children at that time

1848
01:06:15,910 --> 01:06:13,039
given the time delay and then the media

1849
01:06:17,349 --> 01:06:15,920
or even elementary school okay and if

1850
01:06:19,589 --> 01:06:17,359
that's the case then you start picking

1851
01:06:20,870 --> 01:06:19,599
who those kids might be and then the

1852
01:06:22,309 --> 01:06:20,880
press follows them it looks at their

1853
01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:22,319
grades and all of a sudden the whole

1854
01:06:27,109 --> 01:06:24,000
country gets involved and everybody

1855
01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:27,119
wants to become a scientist that force

1856
01:06:30,950 --> 01:06:28,480
transcends

1857
01:06:32,870 --> 01:06:30,960
any program that you can just sit there

1858
01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:32,880
and say here's to stimulate here and the

1859
01:06:36,870 --> 01:06:35,039
minorities here and the college here

1860
01:06:39,029 --> 01:06:36,880
it's bigger than that

1861
01:06:39,910 --> 01:06:39,039
and when that program becomes visible

1862
01:06:42,230 --> 01:06:39,920
then

1863
01:06:44,470 --> 01:06:42,240
it's an easy sell to congress it's an

1864
01:06:46,470 --> 01:06:44,480
easy sell to the public

1865
01:06:48,390 --> 01:06:46,480
oh and this is what i said can i can i

1866
01:06:50,390 --> 01:06:48,400
can i jump in there and jump on the

1867
01:06:52,150 --> 01:06:50,400
bandwagon with you because unfortunately

1868
01:06:53,910 --> 01:06:52,160
the inspiration part i didn't really get

1869
01:06:56,069 --> 01:06:53,920
to because i was being truncated i think

1870
01:06:58,150 --> 01:06:56,079
that's exactly what happens and growing

1871
01:07:01,109 --> 01:06:58,160
up in the 60s as well

1872
01:07:02,630 --> 01:07:01,119
we saw that there was a i was not

1873
01:07:04,789 --> 01:07:02,640
i didn't wasn't any of some of the there

1874
01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:04,799
were programs out there but i wanted to

1875
01:07:08,309 --> 01:07:06,240
be a scientist and nobody was

1876
01:07:10,549 --> 01:07:08,319
necessarily telling me how to be it so i

1877
01:07:12,390 --> 01:07:10,559
absolutely agree and you see that there

1878
01:07:14,069 --> 01:07:12,400
was a rise in folks who wanted to go in

1879
01:07:16,630 --> 01:07:14,079
the sciences as a direct result it's

1880
01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:16,640
that that challenge that we get i think

1881
01:07:20,870 --> 01:07:18,640
that it's absolutely there and we do

1882
01:07:22,630 --> 01:07:20,880
need to say it more loudly and more more

1883
01:07:24,870 --> 01:07:22,640
often sometimes we get stuck in the

1884
01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:24,880
woods with with the pieces that we have

1885
01:07:29,109 --> 01:07:26,640
but i absolutely agree with you it's

1886
01:07:30,630 --> 01:07:29,119
that inspiration and i just do one thing

1887
01:07:32,950 --> 01:07:30,640
when i went to china i went to china in

1888
01:07:35,109 --> 01:07:32,960
their space program the kids were going

1889
01:07:37,029 --> 01:07:35,119
wild because they had their space at

1890
01:07:38,950 --> 01:07:37,039
their astronaut there and i think we

1891
01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:38,960
went wild the same way and we wanted to

1892
01:07:42,789 --> 01:07:40,400
follow in their footsteps so i agree

1893
01:07:44,950 --> 01:07:42,799
with you 100 and thank you for

1894
01:07:47,510 --> 01:07:44,960
for clarifying that uh lori if i have

1895
01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:47,520
one other quick note uh about the

1896
01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:50,400
the the collaboration that you uh spoke

1897
01:07:54,069 --> 01:07:51,359
of

1898
01:07:55,589 --> 01:07:54,079
uh i i ask the question because i come

1899
01:07:57,589 --> 01:07:55,599
to this kind of as an academic and so

1900
01:07:59,670 --> 01:07:57,599
when i see potential problems i think

1901
01:08:01,750 --> 01:07:59,680
they're kind of cool to solve not that

1902
01:08:03,430 --> 01:08:01,760
they're problems

1903
01:08:05,510 --> 01:08:03,440
to worry about but problems to bring

1904
01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:05,520
smart people to what does it look like

1905
01:08:08,470 --> 01:08:06,960
to another country

1906
01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:08,480
when we say

1907
01:08:11,990 --> 01:08:10,400
our civilian space agency is partnering

1908
01:08:13,990 --> 01:08:12,000
with the military branch of the

1909
01:08:14,950 --> 01:08:14,000
government what does that look like to

1910
01:08:16,470 --> 01:08:14,960
them

1911
01:08:17,430 --> 01:08:16,480
to us it looks fine because you're

1912
01:08:19,990 --> 01:08:17,440
sitting right next to me and you're a

1913
01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:20,000
nice guy and way and you bring security

1914
01:08:23,829 --> 01:08:21,600
to our country and so of course it'll be

1915
01:08:27,030 --> 01:08:23,839
a collaboration to another country it's

1916
01:08:29,430 --> 01:08:27,040
the military marrying a civil agency and

1917
01:08:31,030 --> 01:08:29,440
i ask if we see another country

1918
01:08:33,269 --> 01:08:31,040
start a space program and then they say

1919
01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:33,279
oh by the way there's an entire military

1920
01:08:37,189 --> 01:08:34,960
branch that's going to be married to

1921
01:08:39,749 --> 01:08:37,199
that how do you react if you see that

1922
01:08:41,829 --> 01:08:39,759
happen in another land

1923
01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:41,839
i'm sorry does that rhetorical question

1924
01:08:48,309 --> 01:08:42,960
okay

1925
01:08:51,829 --> 01:08:50,870
let me let dale respond real quick

1926
01:08:53,110 --> 01:08:51,839
i guess

1927
01:08:56,470 --> 01:08:53,120
following on the point you just last

1928
01:08:58,709 --> 01:08:56,480
made i guess i see us needing to

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industrial base issues i i think we're

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going to require a certain level of of

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integration between the civilian and the

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military agency but

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i i guess i was more inspired by the

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charming young lady who had to leave

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with the space adventures t-shirt or

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jacket that

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uh it dawned on me that maybe a way to

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deal with the perception in this uh out

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the third world or whoever of of

1940
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because i know it will arise and and i

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hope somebody questions it somebody's

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paying attention about the military

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joining with the civilians

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but a dear friend mentioned to me

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yesterday when i was talking about being

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in colorado and other things like that

1947
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and and bringing in the commercial and

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he said

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people have got to understand that space

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is way too important to leave it to the

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federal government

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and that i think one way we deal with

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that issue is

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we're not only joining the civilian with

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the military but more importantly we're

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bringing

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the larger ultimately more innovative

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ultimately more resourced capabilities

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of the commercial sector

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so that we're getting the frivolous the

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the the goofy um

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the money making uh

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involved in it and i think that to me is

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what i find most inspiring by what the

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president's rolling out is he's really

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trying to change the paradigm god i hate

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that word change the the concept of how

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we even look at space and to me your

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comments earlier about

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in the 60s we didn't have to have

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programs and i agree because i grew up

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here

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and and i think we've lost that as a

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nation

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i see it still is viable in brevard

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county but because brevard county

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our school system here because of the

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space program

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is vastly superior to any other major

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county in the state of florida and

1981
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that's in no small measure because the

1982
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kids who go to school here their parents

1983
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you know work in the space program they

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go when they sit around the dinner table

1985
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they're talking about space related

1986
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things and i think

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absolutely absolutely

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and and what we need to do is as as you

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said is broaden that so that other

1990
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people at other dinner tables in in

1991
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nebraska lincoln nebraska and elsewhere

1992
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are talking about this issue

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okay thank you we've gone over but i

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appreciate you being here i do um think

1995
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that in the future you'll have to remind

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me neil can stay in the panel that he

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intended to so

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actually i do uh want to address your

1999
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your concern about the partnership as i

2000
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think both

2001
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director cabana and general kaler stated

2002
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this is not a new partnership this

2003
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partnership has existed for and it is

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not emerging of our of our programs at

2005
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all we have extremely distinct budgets i

2006
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do not think this any concern in fact as

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a nation we believe

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as has been stated this is an important

2009
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way to collaborate to get a better value

2010
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for the taxpayers so that we can do more

2011
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and provide the economic growth as the

2012
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commercial

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sector leads into this and as far as

2014
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inspiration no one can say it better

2015
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than the president did today that that

2016
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is ultimately as you said you know why

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we are doing this

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and ultimately we believe that will be

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the important way we draw

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students and

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i think adults alike into recognizing

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that we are leaders and our great nation

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ex great nations explore and we intend

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to be one of those and to the extent

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that that is helping to develop our

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economic base all the better so thank

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you very much for being here we're all